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Greetings everyone,

Since a lot of people here are manga artists, I was wondering if I could ask you something:

Do you print your own manga?  


I've been visiting some PODs websites (Print On Demand) and so far, when it comes about publishing your own comic or manga, I've stumbled on KA-BLAM.com & LULU.com. I've read reviews from people who have used their services in the past and the opinions are quite mixed. I heard about ComiXpress, but it goes shot down... :(

Anyone among you ever experienced one of these printing services? And how was it? Who is better among these two? Please let me and everyone else hear about it. Thank you.






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:iconishowa:
Ishowa Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2014  Student Artist
Do you know which one is better now or no? I'm working on a manga comic with my sister and so far it's been tough looking for publishers. Any thoughts?
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FallenAngelGM Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2014
Lulu has more quality, but is a bit expensive.
Ka-Blam is good on the price, but the quality isn't high. I never ordered a manga there, so you'd have to find someone who already once ordered from there to ask them.
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:iconishowa:
Ishowa Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2014  Student Artist
alright thanks
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Avakage Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Comixpress was kinda hard to get set up for me, In regards to lulu, I removed my book because when they give you a upc code or ISBN for your story they technically own the rights and you can't publish it with anyone else (I got that from reading the fine print), Recently I published my manga on createspace.com ,but for a 115page comic it's very pricey (like $20), so I'm going back to ka-blam because kablam was very cost efficient and they did great work. All I have to do when I publish with them is put in a little work and market my story. Right now I have a one-shot on Amazon called "The Avakage" (Published with createspace), I'm actually going to re-vamp that series and publish it through Ka-Blam and promote it a bit & see how well it does. The New title will be something along "Avakage Indomitable" or something along those lines. Vegeta Shock Over 9000  be doo be doo be doo 
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Dark-Momento-Mori Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I'm planning on publishing through Ka-Blam. I need to save up a little more  for the ISBN numbers before I can publish though.
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Spirit-Seer-of-Water Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist

I'm sorry, I can't offer an opinion between the two, because I haven't used them. I hadn't even heard of them until right now.

 

However, I did have an alternate suggestion, but I apologize if it appears off-topic. Have you heard of www.mangamagazine.net? It's a website that I stumbled on that accepts original manga, and from what I understand, if you get in the Featured section, then you can get a cut of the subscriber's fee for posting a page every 15 days. They will also provide some publishing and selling options for your work. I just thought that, if you hadn't seen it before, it might be worth looking into (but I also admit that I haven't posted anything myself, so I can't vouch for how much you earn, or anything, sorry). You get to maintain your rights to the story, too.

 

Good luck!

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FallenAngelGM Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2013
I'll go check it out. :) Thanks.
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Spirit-Seer-of-Water Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You're welcome! :)
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Avakage Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yep, I use ka-blam and createspace, great companies, only problem with createspace is that it gets really pricey for the book, heres an example, this is the 115 page one-shot that I published with createspace: www.amazon.com/The-Avakage-Ras…
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Leonidas666 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I used Lulu a while ago and I liked it. The only thing that was dificult to me was managing updates or new projects. I never used Ka-Blam do.
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FallenAngelGM Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013
My first choice was KA-BLAM. I had heard about Lulu as well. But after getting so many negative comments about these two, I think I'll go for a local printing service. Though the one thing I just don't want to deal with is shipping the books myself. There's a printing service that I know, it's local and they have this website where you can sell you own stuff, but there's only one way of payment and it's by credit card.

But I have a feeling I'll have to face the fact I'll have to ship my comic, when ready, myself.
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Mangaka-Yoshiaru Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Make a list of printing services available please.  Best for comic orientation .
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flarethruster293 Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
ive been trying to find someone to publish my comic but i can never figure out how to start :(
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:iconzyephens-insanity:
Zyephens-Insanity Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So I got my proof today from Greko, and it looks pretty nice, Just like a magazine.
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:iconcetriya:
Cetriya Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Student General Artist
I've heard good stuff about '360 digital' for color works and 'createspace' for BW work
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Yamcha-Wolf Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Lulu is good, but not for large production orders, if you're looking for 1 to 5 copies, maybe to use as promotion, I'd use Lulu. Your best bet though is to just find a print shop and see what x amount of copies would run you.
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:iconjorgesantiagojr:
JorgeSantiagoJr Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Try to find a print shop in your area that does perfect binding. They're going to be the biggest help when it comes to printing.
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Tadpole7 Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013
Ka-blam is good for very small print orders and vanity copies.
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:iconnigz:
nigz Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Professional General Artist
I found just going to a smaller printer locally was cheaper then both so that's what I did
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:iconogawaburukku:
OgawaBurukku Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Professional General Artist
Lulu has some of the worst printing I've ever seen. NEVER using them again.
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Yamcha-Wolf Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Yeah, must've been the binding and book options you picked because I had an art book put together and it turned out ace.
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OgawaBurukku Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Professional General Artist
I was in an anthology so I didn't do anything as far as the book making process goes. But I had bought a few novels that had been published through Lulu and they were of low quality paper with bad ink, just as the anthology was. I use offset/in demand printers now and that quality can't be beat, I think.
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Yamcha-Wolf Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Eh. It all comes down preference.
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:iconkoronamosel:
KoronaMosel Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Student Digital Artist
That's weird because my books turned out great
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Gnome64 Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Great journal. :D
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rienlen Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Student General Artist
I haven't actually tried their services before, but my friend recommends RA Comics Direct, which did a really great job and finish on her short-run comic. I've been meaning to try them as well.

My personal cheap and somewhat quality dropping thing is to print everything out separately at a local print place, but sometimes the costs are still pretty high (I like Officemax, they're pretty good about keeping things reasonable).

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JazylH Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Professional Filmographer
To be very honest, It's best to print it offset & try selling it at local conventions. I was initially a fan of Ka-blamm but each book fall way to expensive. almost 60% more than what you can get from an offset printer for a load of books. However Ka-blamm is a print on demand service so their cost is justified & the quality is very good as well. 

Ultimately though I think you'd have a better chance if you get it offset printed & then circulate it through an e-commerce store or an etsy shop depending on your countries currency restrictions. I always get around 500 of my beast legion sets printed & then distribute them either online or through conventions & local book fairs. But the main thing if you want the book to sell is initially you'll have to set up a budget to promote it through various media.


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Scotty6000 Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
I used ka-blam a few times in the past. And while their services are convenient, cheap, and the books looked nice, what gets you is the shipping. The shipping can end up costing a lot and thus you'd have to sell your books at a slightly higher cost to compensate so its a tricky thing. (And I think they had to raise their prices a bit recently)

Sometimes the best option is to look for local print shops. :3 They'll give you the best bargains and no need to pay shipping fees! Plus it's easier to deal with an actual person lol <3
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:iconjayun:
Jayun Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
Agree absolutely!

We printed our Manga through Comixpress initially before we went offset bulk. After we ran out of our huge batch, thought we'd try another on-demand services, but Comixpress went down. Ka-blam lures you in with cheap pricing then torpedoes your enthusiasm with a crazy shipping rate a few days after finalizing the order. Just from our experience, a 205 page manga weighs in at about 4 oz (little less). Shipping them one at a time at 1st class would only cost less than $2 when we send them out to customers. Even much MUCH cheaper when sending in bulk through media mail. 

But they insist the price to ship a dozen manga sized books is at close to $40. That seriously ups your net cost... Nothing beats offset printing when it comes to overall pricing. But if it's your 1st run... yeah, just bite the bullet!
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Zyephens-Insanity Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've been a Comicxpress customer for a few years, but it's recently gone out of business, so I'm trying out a new place called Greko printing and imaging. Their prices are comparable to Comicxpress, which is cheaper than Ka-blam and all of the other places I checked out, but I've yet to get my sample comic delivered. It should be in tomorrow, actually. I'll let you know if the quality is good.
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:iconfallenangelgm:
FallenAngelGM Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013
Let us know when you get it. :)
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:iconzyephens-insanity:
Zyephens-Insanity Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I just got it today, actually. It's quite nice. The cover looks like magazine paper. Very glossy.
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:iconjayun:
Jayun Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
They have a page count limit for Manga no?
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:iconfallenangelgm:
FallenAngelGM Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013
Cool, thanks! :D
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:iconavirextin:
avirextin Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm not confident enough to print my own manga.


Try Blind Ferret?
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:iconfallenangelgm:
FallenAngelGM Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013
I went on Blind Ferret and I couldn't see where you can print your own manga... :(
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:iconavirextin:
avirextin Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ah. sorry. I just know they do printing, and they're probably tolerant on quality because they printed CtrlAltDelete.
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